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I just tried my second hypnosis session with my girlfriend last night, and ran into a ton of obstacles.

The first session I did with her, I used a progressive relaxation induction. That seemed to work well. She fell into a light trance, but I don't think I was able to deepen it much. I tried the hand-clasp test, and she easily pulled them apart. Being the first session, I just woke her up after that.

Last night, after watching some of the videos on this website, I decided to try the arm-drop rapid induction. I gave her a pre-talk about hypnosis being self hypnosis, and how she could go into trance as long as she desired it. I had her push down on my hand and stare at a spot on the wall, removed my hand and said SLEEP! Her hand dropped, and she laughed and said, "That didn't work." It was frustrating because it looks so simple when a pro does it, and I tried to do it exactly the same way, and got no result.

Of course, I just tried to keep going from there, but my knowledge of inductions is limited, and I had to pull out a script of the Elman induction. I did, and after some fumbling, began the Elman induction. It was going well at first. I got her to close her eyes, did all the deepening parts of the induction, but then when we got to the relaxing the mind part, things went haywire again. When I asked her to start counting backwards from 100, she simply opened her eyes and said that she didn't understand what she had to do.

So I went back, went back through all the deepeners again, and explained more explicitly, and then had her count backwards. She did this time, and soon she wasn't saying the numbers, and so I went on to the next part, where you ask the question, "You can sense that there's a state of relaxation even deeper than the one you're in now?" And again, she opened her eyes and said that she didn't understand the question. She also said that the whole things with the numbers had her preoccupied, because even though she wasn't saying the numbers, she was still counting in her head backwards the whole time.

So I tried a confusion technique I had read in one of my books: I count backwards from 100, and she closes her eyes on even numbers, and opens them on odd numbers. I thought that worked well, as she was soon forgetting when to open her eyes, and once I though she was in a light trance, I started the deepening exercises. I then went on to tests: eye catelepsy, which worked. Rigid arm, which worked. Clasped hands, which worked. I thought I'd finally achieved hypnosis. I also had her open her eyes, and when I touched her and said SLEEP, she'd go 10X deeper. Those seemed to work, too.

Then I tried giving her a post hypnotic suggestion. The suggestion was that when I touched my earring, she'd laugh. I repeated and repeated the suggestion, and I suggested that she wouldn't know why she was laughing, but that she'd laugh anyway. Then I brought her out of it, and asked her how she felt.

She said that she remembered everything I said, and when I touched my earring, she simply shook her head.

Well, then I just started asking questions, and some of the things she said were interesting. First thing I learned, is that she was uncomfortable. She said her necked hurt from having her head hang forward so long. Maybe a taller-backed chair and leaning her head back would work for her?

Then she said that she didn't see how anyone could fall into a trance if they had to be constantly thinking and doing so many things. Imagining elevators, moving arms here, counting, all those things, she said that she couldn't see how someone doing all those things could ever fall into a trance. I had no idea what to tell her.

Then I asked her about the hypnotic tests. She hadn't been able to open her eyes, her arm had gone rigid, etc. She said that was because I had been telling her, and she had been following directions consciously. She went on to say that she wasn't sure if she was just supposed to do what I said, or simply allow her body to react. Again, I wasn't sure how to answer.

She said that she felt like she was in more of a trance the first time we had worked, when I had done the progressive relaxation, and I guess I'll just try that again next time we work together. She's generally a little bit anxious, which I think is interfering with her being responsive to suggestions. She dwells on things all the time, and thinks and thinks and thinks about even the slightest comments. I have a feeling that's what she's doing when I'm trying to hypnotize her, thinking and thinking about each thing.

I'm concerned about how to give her suggestions that will take hold. How to induce deeper states of trance, and have my suggestions followed.

I know there are a lot of great hypnotists on this board, and I admire your skills, and I hope you can help me out with this. This was only my 2nd attempt to hypnotize anyone.

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fear (except for things like mentally ill, medicine etc) is eventually the only factor to keep people from hypnosis (quote jerry kein).
you should get rid of that, and take your time building this up, since its your wife (can be very hard!)
i'm sure there's lot more advise coming your way below here: i'm also not doing hypnosis that long, although i hypnotized quite some people i can say.....
you gotta get full mutual trust.
good luck danny (nice read b.t.w.) and i'll be reading this thread along with you !:-)
Rudy

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Thanks for the reply. I'd hope she'd trust me, being that we've been together for a year and a half, but I guess you're right in that I have to build her comfort with the process more. I think she gets anxious about it also because she knows that I'm really excited about hypnotism, and she may feel like she has to live up to a standard and help me feel success. I don't know. Thanks again :)

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It's a combination of your own experience and expectancy. You're not completely confident that what you're doing will work, and sometimes that is the deciding factor--at first she is just consciously following directions and if you're confident enough when you say "when I touch my earring you will laugh," the line between consciously and unconsciously following becomes very fine. You did good to keep going and keep it light and fun the whole time. My biggest advice for the instant induction is that people will often have a reaction like that, and the most important thing is to tell them just to close their eyes and relax, and you continue your deepening. So drop em and say "sleep!" and don't even acknowledge their reaction, just say "just close your eyes and relax you're doing fine" and go onto an ellman type of deal.

Also, you'll learn how to deal with her reactions to some of the deepening, one thing that worked in the past for me was to use a double bind to the effect of "and if you feel overwhelmed or confused by any of the directions and you feel it would be easier just to completely relax and let your mind go, allow that to happen and just enjoy the experience of relaxation and comfort."

You're doing good, just keep practicing and researching, you'll have it together in no time. Remember, it might be important with this girl to try something new since she expects certain things not to work already. Even if you just reframe one of the techniques into something else by saying "I want to try this a different way that will work better for you" it will get her thinking that this time it's different and she can have a different reaction. Keep up the good work!

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Thanks for the response! I'm definitely going to try that double bind.

And thanks for the encouragement :)

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Jonathan's right: you'll get it, i'm sure!
I can also tell from your excitement: i kow that feeling lol
You know as well as i do, that once you're that excited and motivated, that you
will get the hang of it, and thus so will you: dont worry... just keep doing it.
It's just that you're definately not picking the easiest subject, to say the least :-)

pick some others to gain confidence as well, since what you're telling seems like the
right way, just lacking a bit of experience. I started doing that not long ago and its feeling great!

Another great way to get a lot of confidence is to take a live class.

Ciao
Rudy

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Thanks for the tips! It's good to know that others have had the same struggles, and are now experiencing success :)

i've been looking into live classes, as well. I'm thinking of taking a week-long course at Omni Hypnosis, in FL. I just don't have the funds right now, so I'm trying to learn and practice on my own until I can save up enough and get time off from work to take a class with a pro.

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by going to Jerry's class, you're taking the best decision one can make: i think he
is the best teacher on the planet!
If its too expensive, you might consider a 1 or 2-day rapid-inductions
course just for confidence (f.e. sean michael andrews) , but then dont
forget to still do that course from jerry on dvd: this is the link
p.m. me for more useful info :-)

rudy

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All the comments here are bang on. However, I guess I'll put in my two cents as well.

I've also run into many of these obstacles when I first began. I found that it was the lack of confidence I had in my voice, because I was beginning, and because I had only a few inductions/information to go on. Confidence in the hypnotist is a MUST. I don't know if this was your problem, but developing that voice that sounded clear and confident helped me immensely.

Also, I find that people who don't necessarily volunteer to become a subject, won't be 100% open to experiencing hypnosis in its entirety, and will try to find some humor in it because they either fear what might happen, or they just don't want to be hypnotized at that moment.

Hopefully everyone has helped you on this post, and I hope I also provided enough information for you to go on.

Good luck, and keep practicing!

Brandon

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Hello. Its funny cuz' Im experiencing exactly the same things. when I try it with my girlfriend. But In my case I couldn't make her fall asleep. It has been emposible for me. Even when we both have a point. I want to make her a non-smoker for life. And she wants to... I just don't know what to do to induce her a trance...

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