Hypnosis, NLP, and Learning

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Comment by Heron Saline on January 4, 2010 at 1:32pm

Hi Beven,

welcome to this online community and this particular list. Where my mind goes in response to your question of where/how to start, is a basic structure that can be applied to most learning topics:

1) What?
2) So what?
3 Now what?

If that makes sense to you, then learning about your mind and "what" its component consciousnesses and functions of learning are will be your first order of business! It's pretty interesting as a way to get to know yourself.

Start paying attention to your thoughts. Just notice them, how they are working for you, and what you get from them? What are the different kinds of thought for you? What do they achieve?

A great book for this is Dawna Markova's "The Open Mind" which you can get on Amazon.com usually for cheap.

And as Dawna would encourage you: what are your questions about learning and thinking? What do you want to know about learning?

good luck, have been, keep posting!!

Heron in SF

Comment by Beven Spangenberg on January 4, 2010 at 6:00am

Hi to all,
So tell me were is the best place to start?
I am brand new to all of this. I have read very little on the subject but since I have, I wanted to know more. Please what is step one?

Comment by Lester S. on December 15, 2008 at 3:01pm

**waves hello**

Comment by Sheila M. Street on December 13, 2008 at 11:57pm

Quoting Heron: "So, I'm curious... What are your interests around learning, or what do you wish you could learn more effectively ... ?"

I'm in the "senior citizen" class, and the more I learn, the more I recognize that there is just so much out there, still, to learn. After nearly 3 decades of accumulated "office experience", I really wasn't where I wanted to go in life. During that time, though, I also studied esoteric psychology, read volumes of books, and took self-improvement courses continually. What I ended up with was employers who wanted robots who didn't think for themselves, and a near nervous-breakdown.

So I decided to start at the "intern" level in the hypnosis field, even though I had been doing the same thing, more or less, for the last 20 years before I took the "training". I guess the big difference is in now knowing "how it works", and then moving forward to decide that I wanted to do more than just "do the work" - I wanted to teach others how to do it, too.

I also took a personal vow that I wouldn't stop learning - so I followed my nose into the NLP candy-shop as well. I have focused on learning as much as possible from one teacher, and I will more than likely move on to others as time permits. I think what sparked this was not getting much of anything in mentoring from my original hypnosis teacher - just sort of set out there and told to fend for myself. So I searched for, and found, some really good online teachers. In the process I have discovered many things about teaching, beyond what was even taught in the Instructors courses that I recently completed. I'm striving for perfection (something I was trained to do as a young musician) knowing that in most instances we can come close, but it is rare that absolute perfection is achieved. I guess it's the challenge of working toward that level, that keeps me going.

What I wish I could learn more effectively is time management. When I worked in offices, you could set your watch by my arrival (but rarely by my departure, as I tended to clear the decks before going home at night). I have lost that edge. When I have clients scheduled, most of the time I'm pretty good at being on time or ready for their arrival. When my time isn't scheduled, I get caught up on the internet (time flies when you're having fun!), or chatting on the phone, futzing around doing little unimportant things, instead of focusing on some of the things I know I should be doing to be a more profitable marketer of my services. I'm really good at coaching others to do the things they need to do, but I am not always walking my talk, and it bugs the crap out of me that I allow that to happen. So I probably need a coach or maybe even a 'boss'. :-)

Sheila

Comment by Heron Saline on December 13, 2008 at 1:57am

Hey folks,

I'm back from three days soaking myself silly up at Harbin Hot Springs, ~ 2.5 hours north of San Francisco in the mountains. It was gorgeous, fall colors, warm/hot/&cold water out of the mountain to soak in, great hiking, lots of naps and reading, wild dance jams at night, a very trance friendly place.

Say, I thought you all might like to know what that weird picture of me (about 6 or 7 years ago) is that I chose to represent this group about learning: it was taken by my friend Karen Koshgarian, who is also a certified Thinking Strategist, at a class we took by Michael Schneider on Sacred Geometry. Michael is a brilliant teacher and the author of the book "A Beginner's Guide to Constructing the Universe: Mathematical Archetypes of Nature, Art, and Science". It was an amazing learning experience with lots of--you guessed it--visual, auditory, AND kinesthetic forms of information and experience to put together into whole-brained learning. In the photo, I'm looking at an ordinary potato which Michael painted to show the pattern of spirals that the "eyes" made...

So, I'm curious... What are your interests around learning, or what do you wish you could learn more effectively ... ?

have a great weekend, it's rainy here in SF,

Heron

Comment by Heron Saline on December 7, 2008 at 3:57pm

Hi Sheila,

I use the term "Learning Strategist" b/c I think it's clearer than the actual certification I hold from the Institute for MultiDimensional Learning which is to work with both groups and individuals using the "Personal Thinking Patterns" (tm) model. I think the term they use is that I'm a certified PTP Consultant, but who would know what that is unless they were already familiar with it, right?

I lived for ten years in the Twin Cities and used to work several miles from the Learning Strategies Corporation in Minnetonka I googled it, never heard of it till now) before I moved to California in '95. Looks like they have some interesting stuff to offer.

What I do is really showing people how to map the range of options that their natural mind already has its own unique ways of doing, recognizing and magnifying what works for them, and doing that at will.

Heron

Comment by Heron Saline on December 7, 2008 at 3:46pm

Hi everyone,

Welcome to this new group! Although I've been teaching intuitively since I was in sixth grade (what is that, about 11 or 12 years old? I'm 50 now!), and was a professional Special Educator for 18+ years, much of my current understanding of the map of the mind and its functions comes from my training with Dawna Markova, PhD and Annie Powell, who co-taught my training in Dawna's model "Personal Thinking Patterns". Dawna studied under Milton Erickson for ~23 years. Her book "The Open Mind" presents the model. It's related to the component submodalities of NLP (the founders of which, Bandler and Grinder, also studies w Erickson) but with some different applications and uses which I have never found addressed in NLP. So the two complement each other magnificently!

I love learning about learning, and I love to support others in their progress in using their minds effectively and satisfyingly, so if anyone has any learning challenges, or success tips, questions, or other tools to share, please fire away and I bet we'll all benefit.

looking forward to your shares,

Heron in San Francisco

Comment by Sheila M. Street on December 7, 2008 at 2:50pm

Hi Heron:

Just a quick question, actually: When you say you are a "Learning Strategist" are you speaking of any particular organization or is this a self-selected title? The reason I am asking is that I have been involved (as a client) for a couple of years now with an organization called "Learning Strategies Corporation" based in Minnesota.

As someone who has been involved in teaching in a non-structured, and non-associative manner (to/with any other group) for many years, I totally agree with your mission statement. I believe that hypnosis and NLP both play a very real part in that, whether or not it is "formally" recognized as such.

Cheers!
Sheila